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Copy FOLDER TEMPLATES INCLUDING PERMISSIONS access levels to different fold

Copy FOLDER TEMPLATES INCLUDING PERMISSIONS access levels to different fold

Originally from ticket #116731.

Hello Egnyte Team,

 

One thing I like a lot on EGNYTE is, that everything is granular :-)

So I build up a** template folder with granular permissions for sub-folders*, access rights for different groups and different folders etc. within the same sub-folder. Certainly the **parent folder or root folder does not have all these permissions* and access rights what I created for the template folder.

How the owner of this template folder (me) can copy this template folder to a new folder which is in a different root folder without losing the all these permissions and access rights of this respective folder?

Is there a way to do this?

Am I doing something wrong?

Other content provider (like box.com) they have a so called “template folder”, where any created folder (incl. permissions etc.) will become a template folder, which I liked a lot.

In the absence of this feature, our IT dpt. can not further expand the cloud at egnyte, since they would need to manually set up each new folder based on the sample folder.

Thanks for your valued feedback :-)

Werner

61 Comments
Nick Dzyuba
Resident

Any update on this?

Hello Egnyte team,

has there been any update on this issue or any walk-around?
thanks!

WERNER

Retired Employee Shyam Srinivasa
Retired Employee

Hi everyone,

We actually released a feature this weekend — Advanced Folder Copy — that will help accomplish some of this. Advanced Folder Copy will considerably expedites the process of manually recreating a template folder structure. Follow the link below for more details.

https://helpdesk.egnyte.com/hc/en-us/articles/203668834

While you won't be able to copy the template folder's permissions with Advanced Folder Copy, you can still choose whether to inherit the destination folder's permissions or set up new permissions yourself. Hope this helps!

Regards,
Shyam

Dear Shyam,

I was very happy to see your reply on this feature after such a long time of discussion in various articles – THANK YOU 

Unfortunately my enthusiasm quickly vanished after reading the details of your new feature.

As I can make out, with your new feature “Advance Folder Copy” youcan only decide, either to inherit the destination folder's permissions (like it has always been before) or to completely set new folders permission (which is the new part of this feature) at each copied folder. This could have been also achieved, by deleting all the folder permissions manually and then set the permissions again.

Hence Egnyte still DID NOT SOLVE the problem of copying folder templates incl. the related permissions of the folder template – sorry to say.

Please refer to the communication in various other articles on the same request:
https://helpdesk.egnyte.com/hc/en-us/requests/116731

Since 2012, we had totally 14 commercial contact persons responsible for our account, but nobody could make any firm commitment and help us on this badly needed feature. Even we offered a significant amount of USD to Egnyte, that this feature will be implemented, but without response.
Since then, this missing feature prevents our company to really expand with Engnyte at our worldwide operations.

Check out your competition on this feature:
https://www.box.com/services/browse/search/folder_templates
http://blog.box.com/2012/06/start-collaborating-in-a-flash-with-folder-templates/

Is there any way, that Egnyte can provide this feature within 2015?

Thanks for your feedback.

WERNER
cloud administrator at http://www.igm-group.com/

Retired Employee Shyam Srinivasa
Retired Employee

Hi Werner,

You're correct to point out that Advanced Folder Copy will not let you copy a template folder's permission structure.

We designed this feature to expedite the process of manually recreating a folder structure, creating new subfolders, uploading base files (e.g. an empty budget sheet), etc. In other words, Advanced Folder Copy has turned what was (at least) a multiple step process into a single easy step.

With that said, we'll definitely consider expanding on this to let you copy a template folder's permissions. Thanks for your patience and continued support of Egnyte.

Regards,
Shyam

Dear Shyam,

Thanks for your reply. is there any walk around, to use an your already established Advanced Folder Copy by help of an API tool and create/copy/move folders with defined/kept folder permissions?

As you have mentioned "we'll definitely consider expanding on this to let you copy a template folder's permissions", which time line do we talk for such a feature?
Regards,

WERNER

Dear Shyam,

If your compare Egnyte with a professional or even simple data management system (DMS), the permissions to folder and a granular folder tree play a big role in a DMS.
Whereas Egnyte is strong in synching and sharing data, in terms of granular folder tree expansion Egnyte is lacking behind the any DMS and even a standard available windows file server.

Imagine how much business Egnyte could generate from SME, if Egnyte could combine the power of the cloud with the possibility of expand folder trees with the respective permissions within the cloud.

Like in our case, we have millions of files in millions of folders on various file servers in various countries, which have all granular permission settings of the various companies. If we would move that data base to the Egnyte cloud, it would reset all existing permission settings and we would have to manually reset the cloud permission settings – correct.

Regards!
WERNER

Retired Employee Shyam Srinivasa
Retired Employee

HI Werner,

Can you please contact api-support@egnyte.com? Being able to copy folder permissions is not currently on our short-term roadmap, so I unfortunately don't have a timeline I can share. I will definitely keep you posted as we get updates on this topic, though.

Thanks,
Shyam

hello Shyam,

Has there been any update on this issue?
As you know, the solution https://helpdesk.egnyte.com/hc/en-us/articles/203668834 is not a solution for this question, since it either inheritates the parret folder or you have to manually set a new folder permission.

Thanks for your update!

WERNER

Retired Employee Shyam Srinivasa
Retired Employee

Hi Werner,

Actually, you now have the option to preserve the source folder's permissions when you are performing a move or copy. Refer to this article for more details: https://helpdesk.egnyte.com/hc/en-us/articles/204974070

So if you combine this with the Advanced Folder Copy feature, I think it should address your needs. Hope this helps!

Regards,
Shyam